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Ahh, the trope that launched a thousand redesigns. But are timeskips good? Bad? Narratively neutral and solely determined by the execution? (yes) But let's discuss in more detail anyway!
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    Overly Sarcastic ProductionsOverly Sarcastic ProductionsVor Monat
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      Doom AdderDoom AdderVor 24 Tage
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    • I was wondering about that. Please let us know when things become more consistent, as I loved the series up until this point, and would like to keep reading it when I am allowed to do so.

      Steve KSteve KVor Monat
  • Speaking of timeskips undoing everything.... also, speaking of DBZ..... Vegeta's character arc getting reset EVERY. SINGLE. ARC. Especially after the Cell arc where he vows never to fight again.... then start of Buu arc he's whining that Gohan never kept up his training and literally signs a deal with a devil and murders a ton of peeps just so Goku will fight him again. Ughhh. His best arc was on Namek and every arc after is just an inferior retelling of the same thing. Anyway... back to timeskips.... I wish they wouldn't skip over the training and slice-of-life as much. These can sometime be some of the better moments. As much as filler gets a bad name, it can really add a lot to a character.

    EndoScorpionEndoScorpionVor Tag
  • More lit less chit, (cartoons are stories I know but...) more lit less chit

    Jesus MindJesus MindVor 3 Tage
  • You need to dissect Momento

    Stephen MosackStephen MosackVor 3 Tage
  • Too many cartoons for me, wild, loopy, quantum, tangent on the curve, spiral on a back leaning line time skips; Ursula Le Guin, "Lathe of Heaven", Time Skip as central, both plot driven and character driven central drive shaft, or centuries on a moment, "Chronicles of Narnia" Quantum time skip ending, one moment split in two, Donnie Darko, Donnie frickin Darko oh yeah. spoiler alert (from the 1980's he he) The Devil's Advocate, Al Pacino, (the Devil) and Keanu Reeves, (the lawyer) End of the 3rd act, Devil roars at lawyer threatening to quit, "There's nothing out there, you've seen it!" or close to it, nothing out there, now what, work for me and....time skip Changes everything, Time skip as story climax, total game changer, and not stupid easy way out but real thoughtful chit man thrills right up to the last frame.

    Jesus MindJesus MindVor 3 Tage
  • It's rare, but my favorite subversion of the "Oh no the timeskip broke things we liked we gotta get it back and thereby undo the whole point of a timeskip" issue is for one character to be really into the idea of "setting things right" even though from everyone else's perspectives the changes have actually been positive and healthy, even if they weren't always fun. A good, albeit simple, example of this is in Steven Universe Future, where Steven is so used to helping Lars and Sadie overcome their unwillingness to openly communicate so they can work out their relationship problems that he keeps trying to "fix" things between them even when they've actually had a healthy discussion, ended things on good terms, and moved on with their lives.

    Megan BarhorstMegan BarhorstVor 4 Tage
  • Trope talk on the quiet ones? Especially when they break?

    Guardian TreeGuardian TreeVor 4 Tage
  • Litterally every one of these negative timeskips happens in every live action show. The first 6 episodes of season 2 legacies is just tryna go back to normal.

    that one guy 500that one guy 500Vor 4 Tage
  • 14:52 Ok, but isn't pretty much every character a self insert since you created it?

    Doctor DingoDoctor DingoVor 5 Tage
  • You think attack on titan season 4 did a good time skip yes or no

    Joshua KelleherJoshua KelleherVor 5 Tage
  • A manga with a lot of timeskips done well is 20th century boys, where the plot goes through the protagonists' entire lives, demonstrating how their actions irreversibly change their lives and the world, while still maintaining the core story and character building of the main characters

    Iiii VvvvIiii VvvvVor 6 Tage
  • 12:22 petition to get red to watch one piece, seeing as how a lot of its plot is character driven with extensive world building I'm sure she'll like it

    Iiii VvvvIiii VvvvVor 6 Tage
  • Woah....

    Danilo FelicianoDanilo FelicianoVor 7 Tage
  • Challenge: Read "Belgarath the Sorcerer" by David Eddings and try to see if you can tell when a time skip or time jump occurs.

    Xiao OnXiao OnVor 8 Tage
  • Has any film ever been made without timeskips? If yes, I think it'd be useful for some people around me who complain about time jumps in most instances, insisting that a film or show without them wouldn't be weird at all.

    Philipp CPhilipp CVor 8 Tage
  • That’s it I’m writing a story that shows every time the main character poops

    Bird The BearBird The BearVor 9 Tage
  • You haven watched or read one heart will recover but god give a warning before u hurt me like that

  • I am actually ok with time skips establishing somethings only to be undone soon

    Mushfiqur RahmanMushfiqur RahmanVor 9 Tage
  • I think ToG handled the time skip really well. Well, there are multiple mandatory time jumps over the course of the story, which mostly serve to speed up natural character development, but also add scale to this unique world and its rules, to say like, yeah, it took them three years of traveling literally to get from plot point A to the place where plot point B happens. And I think thats far better than just adding a bunch of unnecessary side drama that is not relevant to the story. Go read it on webtoons, Tower of God, it's good. As far as I remember, there's only one major time skip that immediately follows from the major, gut wrenching cliffhanger at the end of season 1, where really no first time readers know what happens and the way the story is constructed at this point, I think it just works, it's SO GOOD

    DragongagaDragongagaVor 9 Tage
  • Completely unbroken /buffers stretch of time.

    LiamLiamVor 9 Tage
  • The real question is why the big leap is called a timeSkip and why the short one is called a timeJump

    boioboioVor 10 Tage
  • ReBoot... [gets hit by the nostalgia train]

    abloogywoogywooabloogywoogywooVor 10 Tage
  • The show "Heroes" has an addiction to timeskips. I'm halfway through season 3, and I'm noticing a recurring theme. One or more of the characters travels to and/or sees the future, and one by one, the protagonists are rounded up (because no matter how many times they come together to save the world from catastrophe, they always end up far away from each other by the next volume) to save the world. There's always a period where they show what happened in the past to catch everyone up on the madness that is the present, and then show an unrecognizable future brought to you via the butterfly effect. Now, I do like time travel in fiction. It's amazing. But dude... there's such a thing as too much. One guy can manipulate time and space, another guy absorbs and copies his powers, one dude can depict the future in paintings, guy absorbs his powers, other guy kills original guy, and steals his power for himself, and two other guys are shown to develop this ability in later seasons, then there is a thing people eat that gives them visions of the future, one woman can predict the future when she dreams, guy absorbs and copies her power, girl can run super fast, and her ability at one point becomes supercharged, enabling her to travel faster than light and the show goes along with the space time continuum idea of traveling faster than light lets you go back in time, so she goes back 16 years, and the show glosses over how she came back to the present... just, so much time travel and future reading.

    Hungry PenguinHungry PenguinVor 11 Tage
  • Red did a comic! Awesome!!

    Kelfsword16Kelfsword16Vor 11 Tage
  • When you get the time, watch one piece. I know it's a bit much but believe me, it's worth it.

    Lee 24Lee 24Vor 11 Tage
  • 12:10 the characters changed? Outside of looks and power-ups they are the same characters personality-wise

    David HoppDavid HoppVor 13 Tage
  • Vinland saga has to have one of the best time skips out there m.

    JustankittyJustankittyVor 13 Tage
  • Jojo's bizarre adventure is known for it's timeskip for introducing 5 generations of it's cast which were all male and now a female main character is coming into the final arc then there's a reboot/not reboot arc that has the story and main characters somewhat switch roles, it's weird but it seems to work for this series.

    Nathaniel LeeNathaniel LeeVor 13 Tage
  • big disagree with your point at 10:15, how, precisely, those two character who werent around, were they supposed to know that the happy go lucky goofy ass martian kid wouldve become a MIND RAPIST

    montezumamontezumaVor 13 Tage
  • Anyway yeah I liked Fire Emblem Three Houses' timeskip, especially how Edelgard and Dimitri both grew, you can really see Edelgard's transformation from a student to an actual Emperor, and Dimitri's descent into madness

    Hanji Cohen-ChangHanji Cohen-ChangVor 13 Tage
  • So is the eyepatch guy a Fire Emblem Three Houses reference or is that a common thing that happens?

    Hanji Cohen-ChangHanji Cohen-ChangVor 13 Tage
    • @jayhasthebigdumb fr fr?? i was like omg dimitri? what?

      Hanji Cohen-ChangHanji Cohen-ChangVor 9 Tage
    • Dimitri immediately came to mind when I saw him…

      jayhasthebigdumbjayhasthebigdumbVor 10 Tage
  • probably really stupid of me for expecting anything to do with Fire Emblem here lmao

    Hanji Cohen-ChangHanji Cohen-ChangVor 13 Tage
  • I remember Naruto being such a huge offender on the second one. Three year timeskip and it amounted to basically everyone changing clothes and learning one new technique.

    ArachCobraArachCobraVor 13 Tage
  • I remember when a friend and I used to edit each other's writing, she'd nitpick the fact that I wouldn't show the stuff like the process of waking up, putting on pants, etc every single time. It's nice to hear that this isn't the faux pas that she tried to tell me it was. It's one thing when the audience is trying to keep track of important objects and spacing, but I shouldn't have to say the characters brush their teeth *every time* they wake up.

    darkwaterseraphimdarkwaterseraphimVor 14 Tage
  • I’m glad you brought up young justice. 5 years is a huge amount of time to skip for kids. Often they’re not even really the same person anymore.

    Cordon JosephCordon JosephVor 15 Tage
  • Alias’ time skip at the end of Season 2 is notable in that it explicitly uses the disruption of the POV character’s relationships.

    Brian GerstelBrian GerstelVor 16 Tage
  • Thank you for bringing up Young Justice. We share the same thoughts on that show’s time skip mess.

    Emerald Star ProductionsEmerald Star ProductionsVor 17 Tage
  • your vids are really good but god damn are you talking at 10× speed

    zenoaeno penozenoaeno penoVor 17 Tage
  • I tend to have an aversion for timeskips but I absolutely love those in Tower of God. The funny thing is, since most of the cast is basically immortal and already very old, most things stay the same except for the protagonist who changes A LOT, so you have the nice breakup in continuity byseeing the hero grow while not having to relearn the rules of an already massive world.

    L'Humanoide Errant des InternetsL'Humanoide Errant des InternetsVor 18 Tage
  • I HATE to laud voltron, because I hate how dirty they did their characters, and they had DO much room for growth they never took. BUT. Something I did LOVE about that show was how they handled the timeskip. The team doesn't even know until they're filled in by an outside party. For them, no time has passed, so their character interactions and internal struggles haven't at all changed, but the universe around them HAS. Things got worse for the universe, much, much worse, and they need to double down their efforts to stem back the tide of the galra empire, which has now found its way to *earth*, their home. As paladins, this was *always* personal. For Keith and pidge, this was always personal, theyd lost people to this, not just their lives. But they're forced into this future where their home is being threatened, despite the fact that they'd beaten the last immediate threat. Through the final season we see the payoff of all their previous work at becoming good fighters/pilots/strategists/engineers/soldiers. They focus, work, and do everything they can, often running themselves into the ground. 6 teenagers an uncle and one basically dead adult responsible for the future of the universe. The war got worse, and through the season we see the team get more intense. They become better fighters, more coordinated, and more dedicated. More than once a team member willingly puts themself in the line of fire for the mission, or even goes so far as to almost sacrifice themself to save others. And, they almost loose the war. Its pure, unadulterated luck for a long, long time that they're not crushed. Allies weapons and system-fixes happening just in the nick of time to prevent disaster. That got a little tangental, but the point is that we got the best of "Time skip to darker future" and "time skip to show characters being older and more badass" without loosing the character arcs and interactions we'd been built up to. It's extraordinarily well done. (Honorable mention that after abt season 3, when the show had basically been greenlit to continue until it was done, Voltron never ignored the overall passage of time, and the effect it had on the characters. Even if it was only given a few moments here or there, those moments were always used to set the tone of the next scene. This show NEVER let an opportunity to portray war as something horrible, even if we were actively rooting for one side, we SAW the tragedy. The thousands of gala ships that went down, the mass graveyard Pidge runs through to find her brother, the way Lance misses his family, how Keith's character development stems equally from his relative isolation from others, exasperated by the mission (his mother being a blade, Shiro being taken from him over and over again), and his sense of duty that is driven by his desire to protect people. The war is hard on all of them in different ways, but the passage of time is something that affects ALL the characters, and the timeskip in its homestretch really doubled down on that theme)

    laurdes zlaurdes zVor 18 Tage
  • This video was brought to you by One Piece

    ThePhreakassThePhreakassVor 18 Tage
  • Yesss love to see Reboot analysis!

    KelessaKelessaVor 18 Tage
  • "No one ever poops." Red obviously hasn't read Gulliver's Travels. I'm not kidding. Thanks for that, Jonathan Swift. 😑

    _ G8dFäthəR __ G8dFäthəR _Vor 19 Tage
  • Love the comic!

    V.M. SmidtV.M. SmidtVor 19 Tage
  • Petition for Red to read and/or watch One Piece🔥🔥🔥

    Robin LorenzRobin LorenzVor 20 Tage
  • Okay but let's get serious read One Piece

    mraajaxxmraajaxxVor 20 Tage
  • Watching this after Endgame like 👁👄👁

    Julius MunemoJulius MunemoVor 20 Tage
  • How did it take so long to get to one of the most popular tropes!

    Christine KingstonChristine KingstonVor 20 Tage
  • You should to a trope talk about idiot plots lol

    The Boulder027The Boulder027Vor 20 Tage
  • um... What is a 'cotton candy elf'? Is that like eye candy? Nevermind. I'll just read it.

    Daniel BigginsDaniel BigginsVor 21 Tag
  • you had me at medieval super hereos

    Daniel BigginsDaniel BigginsVor 21 Tag
  • Once Upon A Time did time skips with memory loss a lot. Like everything that happened on that show, it was repeated enough for it to seem ridiculous that they'd go to that well again.

    Adam GiessAdam GiessVor 21 Tag
  • I think it would be interesting if you talk about the "in another world" trope

    just a red birdjust a red birdVor 21 Tag
    • @Ironic Divine Mandate Stan and is funny how he wrote one of the first isekai and also tom sawyer

      just a red birdjust a red birdVor 21 Tag
    • @Ironic Divine Mandate Stan yes, but i want to hear red trashing this trope and then talk good things about it and how and how not handle them for 8 minutes straight

      just a red birdjust a red birdVor 21 Tag
    • Mark Twain wrote an isekai.

      Ironic Divine Mandate StanIronic Divine Mandate StanVor 21 Tag
  • If I could afford it, i would pay money to see your example characters turn into an actual television show

    Someplant59Someplant59Vor 22 Tage
  • The Time Jump that is most awkward to my eye that is used A LOT are after shower scenes when they show the character go from the shower to their clothes and get dressed with out drying off first.

    Matthew RichardMatthew RichardVor 22 Tage
  • I think Fairy Tail's first time skip was actually pretty good. In that one the entire main cast basically misses out on the time skip and the entire next arc is about them trying to repair the damage caused to their guild because of this. FT went from being one of the greatest guilds to being a laughing stock, I can't be the only fan of the series who cried when Natsu crawled through his motion sickness just so he wouldn't get last place because he knew his friends had spent 7 years suffering.

    N-RivN-RivVor 23 Tage
  • Me, a manga reader: I've watched One Piece and Attack on Titan, but I'll watch this anyway and hear explanations and examples

    Maxine SeniorMaxine SeniorVor 23 Tage
  • The fact that Robin/Nightwing and Zatanna just unceremoniously broke up off screen (unless I missed something) always made me furious in seasons 2 and 3 of Young Justice.

    KeystoneAgentKeystoneAgentVor 23 Tage
  • Time-skips of months/years almost always bug me. It's like we just miss a huge chunk of the characters journeys, and essentially get reintroduced to them as different people - like jumping from season 1 to season 6 of a show and wondering why certain characters have died, broken up, gotten together, made new friendships and developed different personalities. I find it almost cruel (I'm thinking Young Justice from season 1 - season 2 in particular. That really annoyed me as a kid).

    Harry WeaverHarry WeaverVor 23 Tage
  • You have other things going on? Is finishing Journey to the West one of those things? Please, please finish it. I'm begging you.

    blaze 13541blaze 13541Vor 23 Tage
  • talk to fast

    rick davisrick davisVor 23 Tage
  • The most surprising timeskip that I recently saw was the one in season 3 of Jane the Virgin. They suddenly go 3-4 years in the future and I did not expect it. It's wild but it was handled very nicely in my opinion.

    phanfingerphanfingerVor 24 Tage
  • Narrator: a time skip happened the world is all messed up Protagonist: No don’t worry i pushed this button and rewound to everything before the time skip Supporting: cast this is actually kind of boring Protagonist: you want me to push the button again Supporting cast: we want you to push the button again * back to your regular scheduled show*

    Griffin TattongeyerGriffin TattongeyerVor 24 Tage
  • One of my favorite novels/Chinese anime stars with the words "Good news everyone, Wei Wuxian is dead!" This is a little jarring since Wei Wuxian is the main character. We are also informed that he was the Big Bad-- a war hero gone rogue and insane after he invented necromancy. Not to worry though, the actual story starts 13 years after that, when Wei Wuxian is summoned back into another body via a dark ritual. He is mildly miffed about this. What I love about that story though is how it sets up our expectations for how things are gonna go, and how Wei Wuxian is going to interact with the people from his past, and then continues to smash them, much the the POV character's confusion. It's a great use of a time skip, unreliable narrator, and limited point of view. As I watch through the trope talk videos on your channel, I'm continously delighted by just how many tropes Mo Dao Zu Shi manages to use to great effect. I didn't know you were making a web comic, but now I'm curious how YOU use tropes and, well, everything else I've heard you talk about. I'm going to check it out.

    AnayacerinaryuAnayacerinaryuVor 25 Tage
  • Hey so this probably won't be seen but what about a trope talk on soulmate!

    Luvu TVLuvu TVVor 25 Tage
  • Major nostalgia when seeing Reboot

    Ruaidhrí RyanRuaidhrí RyanVor 25 Tage
  • "Superhero medieval times". That premise reminds me of Dominic Deegan. So much snark on the Giant in the Playgrounds web forums for Dominic Deegan.

    Peteman12Peteman12Vor 25 Tage
  • My favorite timeskip-induced-eyepatch-acquisition has to be Dimitri in FE three houses. I haven't taken the time to do a thorough analysis, but this timeskip successfully got me re-invested into the plot of the game as well as the characters whom I got to know as a player before the timeskip occurred. Even without counting Dimitri, the design changes are spectacular (for the most part). It makes a lot of sense as to how the status quo has changed, and how the future will be affected by your choices, so I think that's why I could be immersed by the timeskip even though I knew from trailers that it would happen months before three houses was even released. My biggest problem is how the player insert character byleth is handled, as they stay the same as 5 years pass by. It seems like the biggest waste of potential that they didn't give another redesign to the supposed main character, or maybe the final nail in a coffin for what could have been a good protagonist. Robin >>>>>>>> Byleth

    Truman FoglerTruman FoglerVor 26 Tage
  • Your videos always put me in a better mood when I'm stressed, thank you

    demigodsavatards-godemigodsavatards-goVor 26 Tage
  • 13:27 Watched the final season of Fairy Tail recently, eh?

    Deathboy17Deathboy17Vor 26 Tage
Trope Talk: Timeskips